1 00:00:05,670 --> 00:00:02,810 [Music] 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:05,680 congratulations YouTube you did it you 3 00:00:10,650 --> 00:00:08,170 wore me down and you sucked me back in I 4 00:00:13,259 --> 00:00:10,660 have too many subscribers here just to 5 00:00:15,810 --> 00:00:13,269 walk away entirely especially with no 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:15,820 alternative that truly stacks up and so 7 00:00:20,850 --> 00:00:18,010 many copycat channels uploading my shows 8 00:00:23,790 --> 00:00:20,860 for me anyway but we can't forget the 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:23,800 th-these account here is on thin ice and 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:26,170 so the YouTube version of the show has 11 00:00:31,860 --> 00:00:29,170 to be prefaced with this little PSA only 12 00:00:33,390 --> 00:00:31,870 to say that episodes that contain the 13 00:00:36,270 --> 00:00:33,400 kinds of themes that have been regularly 14 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:36,280 banned on YouTube will not appear here 15 00:00:40,650 --> 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00:02:52,609 or sequestered away in some office for 58 00:02:57,849 --> 00:02:55,220 green paper in a world where people are 59 00:03:00,460 --> 00:02:57,859 having real face-to-face experiences 60 00:03:02,860 --> 00:03:00,470 with non-human intelligences aliens 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:02,870 flyers of the crafts spirits or what 62 00:03:07,180 --> 00:03:04,850 have you and we don't know much more 63 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:07,190 about it today than we did 40 years ago 64 00:03:11,710 --> 00:03:09,290 and whether it's an out-of-body 65 00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:11,720 experience something strange appearing 66 00:03:15,729 --> 00:03:13,519 in their bedroom at night or a lonely 67 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:15,739 drive down a two-lane highway that ends 68 00:03:19,660 --> 00:03:17,209 in spaceship surgery 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:19,670 thousands of people experience things 70 00:03:23,559 --> 00:03:21,530 that our larger culture just won't 71 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:23,569 accept or even examine 72 00:03:27,550 --> 00:03:25,610 it's a damn shame because even when 73 00:03:29,890 --> 00:03:27,560 people are willing to come forward with 74 00:03:32,140 --> 00:03:29,900 their experiences it's all risk and no 75 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:32,150 reward as they're often ridiculed 76 00:03:36,819 --> 00:03:34,370 thought of as crazy or if they had a 77 00:03:39,009 --> 00:03:36,829 career in the military or aviation it 78 00:03:41,020 --> 00:03:39,019 might very well be over and they're no 79 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:41,030 closer to the answers they desperately 80 00:03:45,729 --> 00:03:44,090 seek about what the hell that was maybe 81 00:03:47,979 --> 00:03:45,739 we're being bred and harvested on a 82 00:03:49,629 --> 00:03:47,989 planet shaped people farm maybe we're 83 00:03:51,970 --> 00:03:49,639 being seeded with valuable information 84 00:03:54,250 --> 00:03:51,980 to take us into the new age or maybe 85 00:03:57,339 --> 00:03:54,260 earth is a cosmic truck stop on the way 86 00:03:59,470 --> 00:03:57,349 back to Zeta Reticuli what we do know is 87 00:04:01,119 --> 00:03:59,480 that we'll never get any closer to these 88 00:04:03,580 --> 00:04:01,129 answers if we don't consider all the 89 00:04:06,099 --> 00:04:03,590 options and talk with these experiencers 90 00:04:07,869 --> 00:04:06,109 openly and honestly and today we're 91 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:07,879 gonna talk to someone who's done exactly 92 00:04:12,580 --> 00:04:10,730 that our guest today is alan stivell 93 00:04:14,589 --> 00:04:12,590 Minh a filmmaker all the way from 94 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:14,599 Argentina who recently released a 95 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:16,310 documentary called witness of another 96 00:04:21,849 --> 00:04:19,250 world that is the first of its kind to 97 00:04:24,370 --> 00:04:21,859 dive deeply into the human side of one 98 00:04:26,740 --> 00:04:24,380 particular close encounter that of Juan 99 00:04:30,100 --> 00:04:26,750 Perez who came face to face with some 100 00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:30,110 reality shattering beans in 1978 when he 101 00:04:35,439 --> 00:04:33,680 was only 12 years old and now over 40 102 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:35,449 years later Alan brings the world 103 00:04:39,460 --> 00:04:37,130 renowned Jacques Ballet back to 104 00:04:41,830 --> 00:04:39,470 Argentina to find one living a simple 105 00:04:44,219 --> 00:04:41,840 life in isolation so they can examine 106 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:44,229 the physical psychological and emotional 107 00:04:50,740 --> 00:04:47,840 impact of that fateful day it's a film 108 00:04:53,020 --> 00:04:50,750 chock-full of THC themed goodness and I 109 00:04:55,540 --> 00:04:53,030 am psyched to get into it the deep 110 00:04:57,879 --> 00:04:55,550 diving director and Argentinean alien 111 00:05:00,370 --> 00:04:57,889 encounter chronicler the maker of 8 112 00:05:03,339 --> 00:05:00,380 millimetre magic Allen welcome to the 113 00:05:05,529 --> 00:05:03,349 higher side thank you thank you Greg 114 00:05:08,170 --> 00:05:05,539 thank you for DC introduction high 115 00:05:10,540 --> 00:05:08,180 drive-in and thanks for doing this it's 116 00:05:12,670 --> 00:05:10,550 really been a while since I was 117 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:12,680 compelled to watch it UFO documentary 118 00:05:17,649 --> 00:05:15,409 but there is a lot to like about yours 119 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:17,659 first the encounter itself is pretty 120 00:05:23,230 --> 00:05:20,449 spectacular as are the lasting effects 121 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:23,240 from it but also I'm a big shock pull a 122 00:05:27,249 --> 00:05:25,490 fan and Jacques actually met with one 123 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:27,259 when he was just a boy to talk about 124 00:05:32,050 --> 00:05:30,289 this encounter and then once case made 125 00:05:34,420 --> 00:05:32,060 it into some shocks writings and now 126 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:34,430 four decades later you and Jacques go 127 00:05:39,719 --> 00:05:36,610 and meet with Juan and really 128 00:05:42,179 --> 00:05:39,729 help him heal from this because it was 129 00:05:44,219 --> 00:05:42,189 an experience that deeply affected his 130 00:05:46,350 --> 00:05:44,229 life and obviously we're gonna break 131 00:05:48,959 --> 00:05:46,360 down that encounter but I wanted to ask 132 00:05:51,119 --> 00:05:48,969 you how Juan's case got on your radar 133 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:51,129 and became the subject of your latest 134 00:05:55,529 --> 00:05:53,050 release because I understand it's a 135 00:05:57,980 --> 00:05:55,539 somewhat directed story involving 136 00:06:02,850 --> 00:05:57,990 automatic writing in synchronicity right 137 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:02,860 yes yeah it was pretty weird it's a 138 00:06:10,140 --> 00:06:06,330 change of events I was writing a script 139 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:10,150 seven years ago I was doing outer magic 140 00:06:17,159 --> 00:06:12,330 writing by the time I was trained to 141 00:06:20,100 --> 00:06:17,169 improve my skills of writing and I was 142 00:06:22,670 --> 00:06:20,110 writing a fiction story about the couple 143 00:06:25,709 --> 00:06:22,680 that suffer an abduction 144 00:06:28,619 --> 00:06:25,719 the girls suffered an abduction and was 145 00:06:33,149 --> 00:06:28,629 kidnapped by entities and she got 146 00:06:35,969 --> 00:06:33,159 pregnant and after 30 pages I start to 147 00:06:40,110 --> 00:06:35,979 say what I'm writing why I'm doing this 148 00:06:43,619 --> 00:06:40,120 this stuff because my field of work and 149 00:06:47,249 --> 00:06:43,629 research was more archaeology the search 150 00:06:50,850 --> 00:06:47,259 of lost civilizations rather than UFO or 151 00:06:53,939 --> 00:06:50,860 the supernatural world so then I stopped 152 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:53,949 and I remember I bought the book from 153 00:06:58,270 --> 00:06:55,730 John Mack 154 00:07:00,970 --> 00:06:58,280 and also I bought a book from a 155 00:07:04,540 --> 00:07:00,980 psychiatrist and a psychologist from 156 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:04,550 Argentina that put together in this book 157 00:07:11,860 --> 00:07:09,290 plenty of cases of Argentina and one of 158 00:07:15,850 --> 00:07:11,870 the chapter was about one Paris and 159 00:07:20,230 --> 00:07:15,860 while I was presenting my previous movie 160 00:07:24,730 --> 00:07:20,240 in Rosario is a city in Argentina in the 161 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:24,740 cinema in the audience was the author of 162 00:07:30,970 --> 00:07:28,490 this book and while I was speaking to 163 00:07:33,550 --> 00:07:30,980 this audience I was grabbing this book 164 00:07:37,050 --> 00:07:33,560 with my hand and he was really surprised 165 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:37,060 and shocked because he left the 166 00:07:46,030 --> 00:07:41,930 investigation of UFO and aliens about 15 167 00:07:51,220 --> 00:07:46,040 years and he said why is this thing 168 00:07:54,730 --> 00:07:51,230 coming to me again the next day we spend 169 00:07:58,170 --> 00:07:54,740 the whole day together we had a pizza 170 00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:58,180 and while we were eating he started to 171 00:08:03,910 --> 00:08:00,560 tell me about one of the most 172 00:08:06,850 --> 00:08:03,920 significant cases from his research and 173 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:06,860 it was the ones first case and he showed 174 00:08:12,820 --> 00:08:10,970 to me one of his footage and it's on the 175 00:08:17,020 --> 00:08:12,830 movie it's at the beginning of the movie 176 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:17,030 we saw one when he's 18 years old he 177 00:08:22,980 --> 00:08:20,570 seen a UFO Congress trying to speak to 178 00:08:26,350 --> 00:08:22,990 an audience about what he saw what he 179 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:26,360 experienced and he's not able to start 180 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:29,510 speaking he grabbed his head and he said 181 00:08:35,230 --> 00:08:32,210 something like you won't trust me you 182 00:08:38,260 --> 00:08:35,240 won't believe me and when I saw that 183 00:08:40,780 --> 00:08:38,270 footage I felt something really strange 184 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:40,790 I felt a connection with one with his 185 00:08:50,050 --> 00:08:45,050 gaze with his tail and immediately after 186 00:08:53,170 --> 00:08:50,060 I asked dr. Burlando that I wanted to 187 00:08:57,790 --> 00:08:53,180 meet one and he was living by that time 188 00:09:02,110 --> 00:08:57,800 in a very far house in the countryside 189 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:02,120 in a very isolated way and after four 190 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:06,800 months I went there I met one it was one 191 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:09,290 of the most significant 192 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:13,040 the meetings that I ever had for me it 193 00:09:18,100 --> 00:09:14,570 was the first time that I met someone 194 00:09:22,530 --> 00:09:18,110 who deals with the supernatural with the 195 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:22,540 unknown and I remember I was having my 196 00:09:29,050 --> 00:09:26,930 DSLR camera I tried to make short film 197 00:09:32,890 --> 00:09:29,060 because I never thought that I was going 198 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:32,900 to make a film out of it and while one 199 00:09:38,230 --> 00:09:35,690 was trying to explain what he saw what 200 00:09:41,890 --> 00:09:38,240 he experienced he started to cry and 201 00:09:42,580 --> 00:09:41,900 then I stopped my camera because I was 202 00:09:46,690 --> 00:09:42,590 not 203 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:46,700 I felt really strange trying to record 204 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:49,910 while he was crying so then I stopped I 205 00:09:56,830 --> 00:09:53,510 sat next to him and I just listened to 206 00:09:59,140 --> 00:09:56,840 what he was telling me and I remember 207 00:10:02,170 --> 00:09:59,150 his last words when we were saying 208 00:10:06,580 --> 00:10:02,180 goodbye he told us something like please 209 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:06,590 come back don't forget about me and I 210 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:10,510 kept one in my head during four years 211 00:10:17,770 --> 00:10:14,810 after plenty of research studying about 212 00:10:20,830 --> 00:10:17,780 the UFO phenomenon I realized that one 213 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:20,840 of the most important things of these 214 00:10:29,710 --> 00:10:24,530 studies are the human aspect of the UFO 215 00:10:32,500 --> 00:10:29,720 phenomenon and I felt very confident 216 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:32,510 in order to make a movie so I spent 217 00:10:40,270 --> 00:10:36,110 three months making this script try to 218 00:10:42,550 --> 00:10:40,280 fund in my movie also and then I started 219 00:10:47,590 --> 00:10:42,560 three years ago and now we have the 220 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:47,600 movie ready to everyone yes it is a very 221 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:50,860 cool story and the fact that you end up 222 00:10:56,380 --> 00:10:53,930 really kind of healing a broken man so 223 00:10:58,390 --> 00:10:56,390 to speak and giving him some answers it 224 00:11:01,330 --> 00:10:58,400 makes the whole thing feel that much 225 00:11:03,130 --> 00:11:01,340 more purposeful but to make sure 226 00:11:05,770 --> 00:11:03,140 everyone is on the same page and 227 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:05,780 understands one story tell us about the 228 00:11:09,340 --> 00:11:07,490 encounter he had when he was a boy so 229 00:11:12,910 --> 00:11:09,350 that people have the context they need 230 00:11:17,170 --> 00:11:12,920 before we can really dive into it yes 231 00:11:22,050 --> 00:11:17,180 well let me say when one was 12 years 232 00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:22,060 old one was a very shy child his 233 00:11:29,410 --> 00:11:26,480 grandfather passed away two years before 234 00:11:32,260 --> 00:11:29,420 this contact and his grandfather was a 235 00:11:35,740 --> 00:11:32,270 very special person for him it was his 236 00:11:39,220 --> 00:11:35,750 guide he was the one who taught one to 237 00:11:41,860 --> 00:11:39,230 hunt to live in the countryside to 238 00:11:45,850 --> 00:11:41,870 connect with the animals with nature and 239 00:11:47,820 --> 00:11:45,860 two years after one had this content it 240 00:11:53,110 --> 00:11:47,830 was six o'clock in the morning of 241 00:11:56,740 --> 00:11:53,120 September 6 1978 Kuan leaves his house 242 00:11:59,890 --> 00:11:56,750 to go in search of the herd of horses to 243 00:12:03,070 --> 00:11:59,900 begin the task of the field and before 244 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:03,080 going to school one has three tasks to 245 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:06,170 do his father was very severe with him 246 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:10,130 and one rides his horse comment that was 247 00:12:15,250 --> 00:12:12,010 the name of his horse comment and 248 00:12:18,910 --> 00:12:15,260 galloped a few meters until suddenly 249 00:12:22,810 --> 00:12:18,920 three lights in the sky began to dance 250 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:22,820 frenetically his horse was scared he 251 00:12:28,300 --> 00:12:25,970 didn't not want to move forward so one 252 00:12:30,629 --> 00:12:28,310 returns calm and explained the situation 253 00:12:35,039 --> 00:12:30,639 to his father 254 00:12:39,780 --> 00:12:35,049 his father ignore skin completely so one 255 00:12:43,710 --> 00:12:39,790 returns goes back we commit and observes 256 00:12:47,699 --> 00:12:43,720 that the thick fog was covering the 257 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:47,709 entire field without fear he decides to 258 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:50,529 cross it but his horse was a little 259 00:12:56,249 --> 00:12:53,170 scared so it was difficult for him to 260 00:13:00,299 --> 00:12:56,259 make him move forward when crossing the 261 00:13:05,340 --> 00:13:00,309 fog bank one sees that a white circular 262 00:13:08,249 --> 00:13:05,350 object was landed on the ground one in 263 00:13:11,069 --> 00:13:08,259 the original reports mentions that he 264 00:13:14,850 --> 00:13:11,079 thought that he was seeing a kind of 265 00:13:19,319 --> 00:13:14,860 tractor or a house for farm workers 266 00:13:22,289 --> 00:13:19,329 he never said the word sheep UFO craft 267 00:13:25,889 --> 00:13:22,299 whatever you want and I want to hide 268 00:13:28,739 --> 00:13:25,899 this detail because one throughout the 269 00:13:30,059 --> 00:13:28,749 whole experience he always thought that 270 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:30,069 he was seeing something that was 271 00:13:37,139 --> 00:13:33,610 familiar to him he never thought that he 272 00:13:41,309 --> 00:13:37,149 was seeing aliens extraterrestrials or a 273 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:41,319 UFO from outer space so that was why he 274 00:13:48,629 --> 00:13:44,970 was not afraid the whole experience so 275 00:13:54,030 --> 00:13:48,639 when he was seen this white circular 276 00:13:56,999 --> 00:13:54,040 object I get from it opens and at all 277 00:14:01,079 --> 00:13:57,009 being looks out and invites him to go up 278 00:14:01,979 --> 00:14:01,089 a ladder descends from the ship one 279 00:14:05,309 --> 00:14:01,989 child 280 00:14:08,789 --> 00:14:05,319 approaches with his horse gets off and 281 00:14:12,210 --> 00:14:08,799 ties the stirrups to the ladder one 282 00:14:15,659 --> 00:14:12,220 climbs the ladder as he can each step is 283 00:14:20,429 --> 00:14:15,669 very high so he finally succeeds and 284 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:20,439 enters this ship Quan sees a very 285 00:14:26,819 --> 00:14:23,730 strange space for him on his left side 286 00:14:29,220 --> 00:14:26,829 he observes that there is a small being 287 00:14:32,429 --> 00:14:29,230 a metre and a half tall who is cutting 288 00:14:35,249 --> 00:14:32,439 meat on a transparent table instead of 289 00:14:38,249 --> 00:14:35,259 hands it has scissors and instead of 290 00:14:40,710 --> 00:14:38,259 feet it has wheels the small being 291 00:14:43,230 --> 00:14:40,720 ignores the person of Quan the whole 292 00:14:44,190 --> 00:14:43,240 experience on his right side 293 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:44,200 he ceased 294 00:14:50,610 --> 00:14:47,410 Taulbee he's about three meters tall 295 00:14:53,610 --> 00:14:50,620 he's watching monitors and making hand 296 00:14:56,819 --> 00:14:53,620 movements as if he were typing on a 297 00:14:59,190 --> 00:14:56,829 touchscreen a very important detail is 298 00:15:02,460 --> 00:14:59,200 that in front of Juan there is a 299 00:15:05,370 --> 00:15:02,470 transparent wall that prevents one from 300 00:15:08,519 --> 00:15:05,380 going to the other side it was something 301 00:15:10,769 --> 00:15:08,529 like an extra magnetic fields so one 302 00:15:14,009 --> 00:15:10,779 tries to cross the wall with his head 303 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:14,019 but he can't on the contrary the small 304 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:16,529 beam moves from one place to another 305 00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:20,889 without problems so suddenly the gate 306 00:15:25,949 --> 00:15:24,160 begins to close and one is skirt because 307 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:25,959 he's afraid that his father will 308 00:15:31,350 --> 00:15:29,050 challenge him for being entertained he 309 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:31,360 quickly gets off the ship and sees that 310 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:34,690 his horse was injured because he hit the 311 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:37,990 leather so the toll being appears next 312 00:15:44,460 --> 00:15:41,010 to one and one ask him for help 313 00:15:47,189 --> 00:15:44,470 suddenly the toe being squeezed once 314 00:15:50,609 --> 00:15:47,199 armed and scratched him 315 00:15:52,450 --> 00:15:50,619 I need to stop here because what 316 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:52,460 happened was 317 00:16:01,030 --> 00:15:56,570 that in the original reports after this 318 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:01,040 soul being squeezed his arm one returns 319 00:16:10,140 --> 00:16:06,100 his home but before that the toll being 320 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:10,150 gave him a present a glove 321 00:16:16,530 --> 00:16:13,810 from his arm as a souvenir 322 00:16:18,810 --> 00:16:16,540 in order to want to be believed by the 323 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:18,820 others by the family that this encounter 324 00:16:25,190 --> 00:16:21,970 was real but before he arrived his cows 325 00:16:29,730 --> 00:16:25,200 three little lights came out of this 326 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:29,740 spaceship and got the gets off this club 327 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:32,710 so one was not able to have this gift 328 00:16:38,970 --> 00:16:35,890 this same is not in the movie because 329 00:16:41,220 --> 00:16:38,980 what happened was that while we were 330 00:16:45,780 --> 00:16:41,230 doing the regression to one because we 331 00:16:49,340 --> 00:16:45,790 wanted to find evidence seized or to 332 00:16:53,010 --> 00:16:49,350 find if there is some lost memories 333 00:16:56,700 --> 00:16:53,020 during this event what happened was that 334 00:17:02,010 --> 00:16:56,710 after pistol being started to squeeze 335 00:17:05,970 --> 00:17:02,020 ones arm one make a little noise or 336 00:17:09,390 --> 00:17:05,980 something like wow and he started to 337 00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:09,400 describe that he was seeing a lot of 338 00:17:16,260 --> 00:17:12,640 stars suddenly he was traveling or 339 00:17:19,069 --> 00:17:16,270 seeing having a vision we don't know but 340 00:17:22,770 --> 00:17:19,079 he started to say wow this is beautiful 341 00:17:26,610 --> 00:17:22,780 disguise and he was like traveling with 342 00:17:29,130 --> 00:17:26,620 plenty of other beings there was not 343 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:29,140 just distal being there were plenty of 344 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:34,690 others around him and before the end of 345 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:38,050 the regression one saw something that 346 00:17:46,750 --> 00:17:42,770 was really powerful and emotional to him 347 00:17:49,090 --> 00:17:46,760 that we needed to stop there dr. Nestor 348 00:17:52,690 --> 00:17:49,100 Burlando decided to stop their their 349 00:17:55,810 --> 00:17:52,700 aggression because it was two hours of 350 00:17:58,299 --> 00:17:55,820 regression and it was so emotional and 351 00:18:01,600 --> 00:17:58,309 powerful to him that we needed to stop 352 00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:01,610 there and I don't want to say what he 353 00:18:07,539 --> 00:18:04,880 saw because I would prefer that you see 354 00:18:10,810 --> 00:18:07,549 the movie but it was something that it 355 00:18:14,169 --> 00:18:10,820 was really powerful to him and it has to 356 00:18:17,529 --> 00:18:14,179 be with the idea because one by that 357 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:17,539 time was asking to distil beam why to me 358 00:18:25,090 --> 00:18:21,529 why to me and cotton had an answer a 359 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:25,100 very special and we need to link that 360 00:18:32,769 --> 00:18:28,610 vision with this question why is this 361 00:18:35,860 --> 00:18:32,779 happen to me why you choose me mm-hmm 362 00:18:38,580 --> 00:18:35,870 yes that is a great summary it is a very 363 00:18:41,889 --> 00:18:38,590 intense story with a lot of detail and 364 00:18:45,010 --> 00:18:41,899 of course authenticity is a big factor 365 00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:45,020 because anyone can say anything yes but 366 00:18:50,380 --> 00:18:47,929 in this case we have a simple farm boy 367 00:18:52,930 --> 00:18:50,390 in Argentina he was only 12 he'd never 368 00:18:56,139 --> 00:18:52,940 seen a sci-fi movie or anything like 369 00:18:58,539 --> 00:18:56,149 that he has a physical mark left on his 370 00:19:00,909 --> 00:18:58,549 arm nobody believed him he had no reason 371 00:19:03,070 --> 00:19:00,919 to come up with this story and then 372 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:03,080 there's that video you mentioned of Juan 373 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:05,090 standing at the podium in a crowded room 374 00:19:10,180 --> 00:19:07,610 set to talk about his experience and he 375 00:19:12,580 --> 00:19:10,190 just completely breaks down into tears 376 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:12,590 it's very telling that this kid 377 00:19:18,010 --> 00:19:16,130 experienced something real and it's not 378 00:19:20,889 --> 00:19:18,020 easy for him to talk about and of course 379 00:19:22,779 --> 00:19:20,899 now he is an adult man but this has 380 00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:22,789 followed him through his whole life 381 00:19:29,889 --> 00:19:26,240 through 40 years right exactly 382 00:19:34,029 --> 00:19:29,899 it's really hard to show hardcore 383 00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:34,039 evidences from UFO cases we had it for 384 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:36,320 example you mentioned that he had a mark 385 00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:37,820 on his right arm 386 00:19:46,550 --> 00:19:42,320 for example the horse comet died 24 387 00:19:50,770 --> 00:19:46,560 hours later there were also 388 00:19:55,340 --> 00:19:50,780 a mark on the grass where the UFO landed 389 00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:55,350 but I think those evidences are not 390 00:20:03,050 --> 00:19:59,280 enough to prove that the UFO phenomenon 391 00:20:07,670 --> 00:20:03,060 is something that is real so as a 392 00:20:10,220 --> 00:20:07,680 filmmaker I try to focus in the evidence 393 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:10,230 that for me is one of the most important 394 00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:13,410 things that is the trauma the trauma is 395 00:20:19,790 --> 00:20:17,280 real we have someone who was carrying 396 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:19,800 something really really big in a 397 00:20:26,780 --> 00:20:23,370 psychological aspect away for more than 398 00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:26,790 four decades we don't know what wants so 399 00:20:32,930 --> 00:20:28,880 we don't know if we are dealing with 400 00:20:35,650 --> 00:20:32,940 aliens from another planet we are 401 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:35,660 dealing with a vision or a shamanic 402 00:20:42,590 --> 00:20:40,130 appearance or if we are dealing with 403 00:20:46,430 --> 00:20:42,600 interdimensional or multi-dimensional 404 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:46,440 beings and also I don't care because 405 00:20:53,450 --> 00:20:49,170 this is something really big to deal I 406 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:53,460 prefer to help a person to try to help 407 00:20:59,060 --> 00:20:55,710 him in order to put all the pieces 408 00:21:02,990 --> 00:20:59,070 together and thanks to the story of one 409 00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:03,000 try to reflect about or meditate about 410 00:21:07,820 --> 00:21:05,520 the idea of the unknown or the 411 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:07,830 supernatural with the help of Jack 412 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:10,530 Ballet with the shamans because this 413 00:21:17,030 --> 00:21:14,250 movie has plenty of voices we have the 414 00:21:19,730 --> 00:21:17,040 voices from the spiritual realm thanks 415 00:21:22,580 --> 00:21:19,740 to the shamanic view from one of the 416 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:22,590 most important indigenous cultures from 417 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:24,930 South America that they are the warran 418 00:21:30,260 --> 00:21:27,810 ease we have the voice of the science 419 00:21:35,150 --> 00:21:30,270 thanks to the psychiatrist and Jacques 420 00:21:38,140 --> 00:21:35,160 Vallee for me it was really beautiful to 421 00:21:41,660 --> 00:21:38,150 see these voices that are in the same 422 00:21:44,090 --> 00:21:41,670 where you're thinking they sees the 423 00:21:47,930 --> 00:21:44,100 supernatural connection in the same way 424 00:21:50,740 --> 00:21:47,940 with different ways of communicating but 425 00:21:54,050 --> 00:21:50,750 they are speaking the same language 426 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:54,060 mm-hmm yes and this is where we really 427 00:21:57,740 --> 00:21:55,530 should give some credit to Jacques 428 00:21:59,900 --> 00:21:57,750 Palais because he was one of the people 429 00:22:02,270 --> 00:21:59,910 that really opened up this 430 00:22:04,670 --> 00:22:02,280 ecology field by saying hey these aren't 431 00:22:07,670 --> 00:22:04,680 just alien ships from space that 432 00:22:09,950 --> 00:22:07,680 conclusion leaves out way too much data 433 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:09,960 something's going on within the 434 00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:13,050 consciousness of these experiencers some 435 00:22:16,610 --> 00:22:14,940 don't see ships at all some see the 436 00:22:19,010 --> 00:22:16,620 Virgin Mary for Christ's sake 437 00:22:21,650 --> 00:22:19,020 exactly insect but you know he really 438 00:22:24,170 --> 00:22:21,660 expanded beyond this ET hypothesis and 439 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:24,180 to spend some time with him had to be 440 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:26,850 pretty great I mean he was involved with 441 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:29,250 J Allen Hynek and project Bluebook as 442 00:22:33,620 --> 00:22:30,930 well as Russell target remote viewing 443 00:22:35,180 --> 00:22:33,630 research I'm sure that you spent a lot 444 00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:35,190 of time with Jacque that wasn't in the 445 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:37,740 film did he give you any added insight 446 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:40,050 or information about his latest studies 447 00:22:45,290 --> 00:22:41,730 or realizations when it comes to this 448 00:22:49,340 --> 00:22:45,300 stuff well I remember one of the last 449 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:49,350 day of his trip we were having a dinner 450 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:53,730 in Buenos Aires and I asked him well 451 00:22:59,930 --> 00:22:56,610 Jack after so many decades of research 452 00:23:01,670 --> 00:22:59,940 of studying what is your conclusion what 453 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:01,680 we are dealing what is that UFO please 454 00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:04,050 tell me I will keep the secret with me 455 00:23:11,060 --> 00:23:08,100 don't worry and he laughs he laughs a 456 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:11,070 lot and he said something like I don't 457 00:23:18,860 --> 00:23:14,490 know I still don't know what we are 458 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:18,870 dealing but I can assure you that the 459 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:22,890 most important thing of these UFO 460 00:23:30,410 --> 00:23:26,450 phenomenon is that create bridges or 461 00:23:33,410 --> 00:23:30,420 links between people because thanks to 462 00:23:37,610 --> 00:23:33,420 the UFO phenomenon I was able to meet 463 00:23:41,290 --> 00:23:37,620 one and meet you Alan and for me now on 464 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:41,300 my age is the most important thing and 465 00:23:48,290 --> 00:23:44,970 lesson of this phenomenon that the UFO 466 00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:48,300 phenomenon connects people and we are 467 00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:51,240 able also to help them because we have 468 00:23:58,610 --> 00:23:55,200 so much to learn from these contactees 469 00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:58,620 or abductees that we don't know yet 470 00:24:07,009 --> 00:24:02,159 he was speaking on the ufologist side 471 00:24:09,379 --> 00:24:07,019 that we are so worried about what the 472 00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:09,389 contactee saw for example what was 473 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:12,629 plenty of details about the entities or 474 00:24:20,060 --> 00:24:15,840 the shape of the UFO that we tend to 475 00:24:23,259 --> 00:24:20,070 forget that there is an impact on the 476 00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:23,269 consciousness of these contactees and 477 00:24:28,580 --> 00:24:26,159 it's really important to make a 478 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:28,590 follow-up in the long term because we 479 00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:30,809 were going to be able to find new 480 00:24:36,110 --> 00:24:34,320 evidences and other thing that he told 481 00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:36,120 me that 482 00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:39,600 the contact itself is just the beginning 483 00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:42,780 of this journey for these people in the 484 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:45,000 case of one I can assure you it was like 485 00:24:52,910 --> 00:24:49,290 that because after four years of meeting 486 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:52,920 one one was able to remember that he had 487 00:25:00,650 --> 00:24:57,450 other cases other experiences after this 488 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:00,660 event hmm and the last one was just two 489 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:04,130 years before it was after the movie and 490 00:25:11,090 --> 00:25:08,730 also I found out that his mother was 491 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:11,100 also a contact II when she was a child 492 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:14,640 and this was a very top secret for her 493 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:17,400 even one didn't know that his mother 494 00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:21,690 suffered the same thing so it's really 495 00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:25,260 important to make a follow-up in this 496 00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:28,980 case is because we were going to be able 497 00:25:36,290 --> 00:25:32,790 to find plenty of new information to 498 00:25:40,340 --> 00:25:36,300 understand the nature of the reality and 499 00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:40,350 also the UFO phenomenon mm-hmm well said 500 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:44,460 and yes it is a little unique I mean 501 00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:47,370 very unique that this movie revisits a 502 00:25:51,710 --> 00:25:49,680 person 40 years later to see how it's 503 00:25:54,410 --> 00:25:51,720 affected them they're still dealing with 504 00:25:56,540 --> 00:25:54,420 aspects of it this thing you just 505 00:25:58,850 --> 00:25:56,550 mentioned about Juan's mom being an 506 00:26:01,640 --> 00:25:58,860 experiencer I think that is mind-blowing 507 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:01,650 because she was very tight-lipped about 508 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:03,330 it she didn't want to talk about it 509 00:26:06,830 --> 00:26:04,770 because she's like if we ignore the 510 00:26:09,950 --> 00:26:06,840 problem maybe it'll go away I don't want 511 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:09,960 my son to get taken except me you know 512 00:26:14,150 --> 00:26:12,090 she had all these real fears and that's 513 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:14,160 legitimate but what does it say about 514 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,710 the multi-generational aspect you 515 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:18,960 mentioned his grandfather earlier I mean 516 00:26:24,650 --> 00:26:21,210 this is where I think the documentary 517 00:26:28,010 --> 00:26:24,660 really shines because so many abductees 518 00:26:33,050 --> 00:26:28,020 or contactees have this in their family 519 00:26:35,420 --> 00:26:33,060 line and he was so concerned about being 520 00:26:37,340 --> 00:26:35,430 kind of isolated with this case he 521 00:26:41,540 --> 00:26:37,350 didn't have anyone he could connect with 522 00:26:42,890 --> 00:26:41,550 and meanwhile he's got family who says 523 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:42,900 yeah I know what you're experiencing 524 00:26:48,020 --> 00:26:44,610 they just didn't kind of let him in on 525 00:26:49,690 --> 00:26:48,030 it exactly except the end he thought the 526 00:26:52,810 --> 00:26:49,700 whole done he was the only 527 00:26:55,210 --> 00:26:52,820 in the whole world that had these kind 528 00:26:58,620 --> 00:26:55,220 of experience and one of the most 529 00:27:01,810 --> 00:26:58,630 traumatic things for him was the 530 00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:01,820 consequences of the encounter and one 531 00:27:08,860 --> 00:27:05,809 was the premonition dreams that he was 532 00:27:11,620 --> 00:27:08,870 starting to have every night every night 533 00:27:16,409 --> 00:27:11,630 when he rolled to sleep he started to on 534 00:27:21,490 --> 00:27:16,419 his own words he was entering a real 535 00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:21,500 dream he told me that this dream was 536 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:25,039 more real than our reality and for him 537 00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:28,730 it was living curse because he was 538 00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:33,620 dreaming about accidents about death 539 00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:40,000 from his colleagues friends family and 540 00:27:46,810 --> 00:27:44,720 he thought that he was his fault he was 541 00:27:52,090 --> 00:27:46,820 feeling guilty because he thought that 542 00:27:57,519 --> 00:27:52,100 he was actually producing this reality 543 00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:57,529 thanks to his dreams hmm yes prophetic 544 00:28:02,019 --> 00:27:59,360 dreams I mean he started having the same 545 00:28:04,690 --> 00:28:02,029 dream every night and I felt more real 546 00:28:09,129 --> 00:28:04,700 than waking wife that's correct 547 00:28:12,250 --> 00:28:09,139 exactly correct correct but he was able 548 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:12,260 also to distinguish from the ordinary 549 00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:15,049 dream because for example he told me 550 00:28:21,580 --> 00:28:17,929 that if we go to sleep on his left side 551 00:28:22,810 --> 00:28:21,590 he will enter a normal dream our 552 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:22,820 ordinary one 553 00:28:28,419 --> 00:28:25,490 but if he suddenly during the night 554 00:28:32,019 --> 00:28:28,429 flips to the right side he will enter a 555 00:28:35,409 --> 00:28:32,029 real dream he knows how to distinguish 556 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:35,419 one dream to another and when he enters 557 00:28:41,009 --> 00:28:36,559 a real dream 558 00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:41,019 he's more real than when we are wake up 559 00:28:48,009 --> 00:28:44,630 hmm I think that is so amazing there's 560 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:48,019 definitely some connection it seems to 561 00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:49,970 be in his case that this place where he 562 00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:51,679 was touched it's like if he's sleeping 563 00:28:57,220 --> 00:28:54,080 on that side it's one thing or the other 564 00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:57,230 side it's another and it seems I mean 565 00:29:02,619 --> 00:28:59,090 pretty obvious that it's related to that 566 00:29:03,460 --> 00:29:02,629 touch exactly that's what I was going to 567 00:29:07,330 --> 00:29:03,470 tell you 568 00:29:12,270 --> 00:29:07,340 is related because it's the same spot 569 00:29:16,510 --> 00:29:12,280 that is there a spot of the mark right 570 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:16,520 man and you also mentioned his mom and 571 00:29:20,350 --> 00:29:18,650 her previous experience but there's also 572 00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:20,360 something interesting about her and I 573 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:22,070 this resonated with me when I heard you 574 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,490 talk about it because I met someone who 575 00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:26,960 said the same thing they said they 576 00:29:30,610 --> 00:29:28,820 didn't like to be touched because a 577 00:29:32,740 --> 00:29:30,620 certain thing happens when they're 578 00:29:36,970 --> 00:29:32,750 touched and what what did she tell you 579 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:36,980 Wow well she didn't tell me because 580 00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:40,370 she's really shy kuan told me that after 581 00:29:45,789 --> 00:29:42,580 the movie after this process 582 00:29:48,490 --> 00:29:45,799 her mother was so happy that she felt 583 00:29:51,490 --> 00:29:48,500 really released seeing wanda's he was 584 00:29:55,630 --> 00:29:51,500 again happy that he recovered his life 585 00:29:57,850 --> 00:29:55,640 and she confessed to one that she also 586 00:30:02,740 --> 00:29:57,860 had this experience when she was a child 587 00:30:05,169 --> 00:30:02,750 and also she explained to one why she 588 00:30:07,029 --> 00:30:05,179 doesn't like to be touched it was the 589 00:30:10,659 --> 00:30:07,039 first time that she revealed this 590 00:30:15,460 --> 00:30:10,669 information and she told one that she 591 00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:15,470 felt everything every for example if I 592 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:19,190 touch her she will feel that all my 593 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:23,330 fears what will happen to me in a year 594 00:30:31,270 --> 00:30:27,049 or two years I'm sometimes she sees some 595 00:30:34,539 --> 00:30:31,280 things that are not really good images 596 00:30:37,570 --> 00:30:34,549 or happy moments she will probably see 597 00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:37,580 bad things and she doesn't like to see 598 00:30:45,390 --> 00:30:39,919 those things because this is my opinion 599 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:45,400 perhaps now that I know her she felt 600 00:30:51,090 --> 00:30:48,409 responsible for seeing those things and 601 00:30:55,450 --> 00:30:51,100 she doesn't want to be the one who had 602 00:30:59,470 --> 00:30:55,460 these responsibilities because she likes 603 00:31:03,250 --> 00:30:59,480 to live her life pretty normal she 604 00:31:07,710 --> 00:31:03,260 doesn't like to be a shaman but I know 605 00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:07,720 from my research that her father 606 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:13,240 was something similar to a shaman so for 607 00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:16,210 my way of understanding the UFO 608 00:31:22,890 --> 00:31:19,510 phenomenon came to this family as an 609 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:22,900 indigenous call or culture call or 610 00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:25,690 lineage called you can put the name you 611 00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:28,900 want but it is something that is related 612 00:31:36,660 --> 00:31:32,470 with her lineage because she carries on 613 00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:36,670 his blood a shamanic lineage that was 614 00:31:43,670 --> 00:31:39,670 cut off when his father or the 615 00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:43,680 grandfather of one passed away right 616 00:31:48,410 --> 00:31:46,240 sometimes people might have this in 617 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:48,420 their lineage but especially today 618 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:50,890 especially Americans we know so little 619 00:31:57,570 --> 00:31:54,010 about our family history just going back 620 00:31:59,370 --> 00:31:57,580 even to three generations it's easy to 621 00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:59,380 see how something like this could be 622 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:01,840 lost if it wasn't carefully cultivated 623 00:32:09,170 --> 00:32:05,350 and passed along and the person given 624 00:32:13,290 --> 00:32:09,180 context for what their lineage is 625 00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:13,300 exactly exactly the lineage it comes to 626 00:32:19,470 --> 00:32:16,960 even a need on UFO phenomenon is note 627 00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:19,480 Neil for my way of understanding we are 628 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:22,000 dealing with a UFO phenomena that comes 629 00:32:32,010 --> 00:32:26,850 from the first night of the humanity so 630 00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:32,020 yeah it's fascinating to see the UFO 631 00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:34,510 phenomena as a whole that it's connected 632 00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:37,840 to humanity to our consciousness and we 633 00:32:44,930 --> 00:32:41,190 don't know why or when was the first 634 00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:44,940 contact but for my way of understanding 635 00:32:53,310 --> 00:32:48,880 there is a relationship and a connection 636 00:32:56,550 --> 00:32:53,320 between not only the afterlife 637 00:32:59,460 --> 00:32:56,560 the consciousness the collective 638 00:33:03,720 --> 00:32:59,470 unconscious and the UFO phenomenon and 639 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:03,730 ourselves yes I'm very much on the same 640 00:33:09,710 --> 00:33:05,410 page with you I think it's all in the 641 00:33:12,780 --> 00:33:09,720 soup and a big part of your film is 642 00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:12,790 speaking with these shamans in Paraguay 643 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:14,980 and you interview several of them they 644 00:33:19,890 --> 00:33:17,050 have a more spiritual take on these 645 00:33:23,850 --> 00:33:19,900 experiences but it's just amazing to 646 00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:23,860 hear from these wise old illuminated 647 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:26,230 folks living off the grid simple lives 648 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:28,750 these are the exact places that I would 649 00:33:33,870 --> 00:33:30,850 like to see filmmakers go to get 650 00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:33,880 insights into these types of things or 651 00:33:39,090 --> 00:33:36,790 what it is to be human tell us a little 652 00:33:41,070 --> 00:33:39,100 bit about them I mean how did they get 653 00:33:44,930 --> 00:33:41,080 looped into this film and what 654 00:33:49,050 --> 00:33:44,940 similarities does one have to them well 655 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:49,060 my first step for this project was to go 656 00:33:56,550 --> 00:33:51,610 to the jungle to Paraguay to meet these 657 00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,560 shamans because my inner question was if 658 00:34:01,170 --> 00:33:58,240 there is a connection between the 659 00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:01,180 lineage and the UFO phenomenon so I 660 00:34:08,909 --> 00:34:06,070 prefer that my first step was going to 661 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:08,919 the origin of one directly to his 662 00:34:16,430 --> 00:34:12,570 lineage so I went there the first 663 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:16,440 community that I met was the closest one 664 00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:20,290 the shamans for the Warren II tribes are 665 00:34:25,379 --> 00:34:22,870 really friendly but they don't like to 666 00:34:28,409 --> 00:34:25,389 connect with white men they had the 667 00:34:31,350 --> 00:34:28,419 reasons we can assume that but I went 668 00:34:36,650 --> 00:34:31,360 there and the first night I was received 669 00:34:39,740 --> 00:34:36,660 by Plutarch oh and he told us that 670 00:34:43,910 --> 00:34:39,750 he already knew our questions 671 00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:43,920 our quest why we are there he dreamt 672 00:34:49,490 --> 00:34:48,060 about our visit the previous night so we 673 00:34:52,250 --> 00:34:49,500 were shocked and we were really 674 00:34:56,390 --> 00:34:52,260 surprised and he told us that he was 675 00:34:58,910 --> 00:34:56,400 going to reveal us all the secrets about 676 00:35:02,480 --> 00:34:58,920 the supernatural world that was never 677 00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:02,490 revealed to a white man so he was 678 00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:05,280 welcoming us so we spent two nights 679 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:09,060 there and we visit other communities 680 00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:12,930 from the war any nation and for me it 681 00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:14,820 was one of the most beautiful 682 00:35:24,050 --> 00:35:20,430 experiences because I understood the way 683 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:24,060 that they perceived the UFO phenomenon 684 00:35:31,460 --> 00:35:26,730 because before that I was trying to deal 685 00:35:35,060 --> 00:35:31,470 how to explain to them the word UFO 686 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:35,070 phenomenon because for my but that time 687 00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:38,010 my perspective of the UFO phenomena was 688 00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:41,400 something that was not linked to the 689 00:35:46,220 --> 00:35:43,830 past or to the supernatural realm or 690 00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:46,230 something you know it's like a machine 691 00:35:54,050 --> 00:35:49,110 and I don't know if in the jungle they 692 00:35:57,740 --> 00:35:54,060 are connected with peace reality so I 693 00:36:01,580 --> 00:35:57,750 try to find words that are similar to a 694 00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:01,590 UFO to I try to describe them so I went 695 00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:04,920 there with images images of one of UFO 696 00:36:10,930 --> 00:36:06,960 sightings 697 00:36:13,890 --> 00:36:10,940 he was never surprised in any words I 698 00:36:17,489 --> 00:36:13,900 was also 699 00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:17,499 very surprised and shocked because when 700 00:36:24,269 --> 00:36:20,950 he started to explain his way of 701 00:36:27,089 --> 00:36:24,279 perceiving this reality his words were 702 00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:27,099 the saying that dr. Jacques Vallee had 703 00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:30,160 in his book he was telling me that this 704 00:36:36,479 --> 00:36:33,910 phenomenon is real 100% real but it 705 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:36,489 doesn't come from this universe or realm 706 00:36:42,989 --> 00:36:39,609 it comes from a realm that is next to us 707 00:36:44,940 --> 00:36:42,999 but is not from this dimension it 708 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:44,950 doesn't come from this universe it comes 709 00:36:50,579 --> 00:36:47,170 from another dimension 710 00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:50,589 they call these beings us to pamiri 711 00:36:58,109 --> 00:36:55,390 Koopa means God and Miri little so they 712 00:37:01,170 --> 00:36:58,119 referred to these beings as little gods 713 00:37:04,589 --> 00:37:01,180 that comes from the realm of God or 714 00:37:06,930 --> 00:37:04,599 something like that but another detail 715 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:06,940 that was really really powerful for me 716 00:37:16,049 --> 00:37:11,650 was that this phenomenon when it enters 717 00:37:19,319 --> 00:37:16,059 this dimension or this reality what we 718 00:37:21,890 --> 00:37:19,329 see it is not real is something that 719 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:21,900 this phenomenon connects to our 720 00:37:28,019 --> 00:37:24,249 consciousness and to our way of 721 00:37:29,999 --> 00:37:28,029 perceiving reality but the shape is an 722 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:30,009 holographic is not something that is 723 00:37:38,370 --> 00:37:34,690 real so saying that he told me that we 724 00:37:42,749 --> 00:37:38,380 need to be really aware of what we are 725 00:37:47,130 --> 00:37:42,759 seeing because this phenomenon has two 726 00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:47,140 sides one side will present the goodness 727 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:49,630 and the other side comes from the dark 728 00:37:56,359 --> 00:37:53,170 side for me was listen and the Star Wars 729 00:38:03,799 --> 00:37:59,329 and she and she also still be another 730 00:38:08,509 --> 00:38:03,809 shaman told me the importance to not be 731 00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:08,519 blinded by this light so in a way we 732 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:11,369 don't have to worship that was what she 733 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:15,450 was telling me because we need to know 734 00:38:23,749 --> 00:38:20,130 from which side they represent so they 735 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:23,759 had tools to identify them for example 736 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:28,410 they have songs and chants ancestral 737 00:38:36,769 --> 00:38:31,650 chants in order to obligate that light 738 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:36,779 or that entity to identify hmm in the 739 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:41,910 case of one Sylvia gave to one a very 740 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:45,210 ancient chant that is not in the movie 741 00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:48,170 oh yes yes sorry it is on the movie but 742 00:38:54,559 --> 00:38:51,359 it's in the minute 15 something like 743 00:38:58,819 --> 00:38:54,569 that when one is riding a horse she 744 00:39:03,529 --> 00:38:58,829 started to sing and this chant is to 745 00:39:07,370 --> 00:39:03,539 confront to not be afraid because one of 746 00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:07,380 the messages that they gave to one was 747 00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:11,609 that he doesn't need to be scared or 748 00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:15,599 afraid from this phenomenon he had to be 749 00:39:23,049 --> 00:39:19,440 very confident very secure of himself 750 00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:23,059 and not to be afraid there is no 751 00:39:29,930 --> 00:39:25,529 necessity to be scared 752 00:39:33,769 --> 00:39:29,940 so I spent 10 days in the jungle 753 00:39:37,069 --> 00:39:33,779 my first trip and my second trip was 754 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:37,079 with one at the end of the movie you see 755 00:39:44,589 --> 00:39:41,130 that one reunite them it was really 756 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:44,599 emotional for one because he felt that 757 00:39:52,579 --> 00:39:48,650 he recovered a very special piece for 758 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:52,589 his own because he lost his connection 759 00:39:56,809 --> 00:39:55,650 with his roots and for me it was really 760 00:40:01,400 --> 00:39:56,819 really special 761 00:40:05,839 --> 00:40:01,410 I also reflect about my origins because 762 00:40:09,259 --> 00:40:05,849 I also broke my lineage my religion my 763 00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:09,269 culture so I step away for me it was 764 00:40:15,310 --> 00:40:10,310 very 765 00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:15,320 not in the movie but it was part of my 766 00:40:21,340 --> 00:40:19,280 inner journey yes man isn't it funny how 767 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:21,350 that works out I feel a similar thing 768 00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:23,690 myself with what I currently do and then 769 00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:26,480 actually reconnecting with stories from 770 00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:28,520 before I was born in my family it almost 771 00:40:34,330 --> 00:40:32,270 seems like a destiny of sorts but I just 772 00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:34,340 loved the insights from the shamans 773 00:40:38,140 --> 00:40:36,710 saying look don't be overly astonished 774 00:40:40,060 --> 00:40:38,150 with this stuff like you don't need to 775 00:40:42,910 --> 00:40:40,070 start a religion because so many people 776 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:42,920 do there's these UFO cults or these 777 00:40:48,490 --> 00:40:46,250 people become they get a Jesus complex 778 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:48,500 like oh I've been contacted I've been 779 00:40:54,370 --> 00:40:51,410 touched yes you know follow me and these 780 00:40:57,070 --> 00:40:54,380 shamans are like bro this is nothing 781 00:40:59,860 --> 00:40:57,080 special this is like you know like we do 782 00:41:01,000 --> 00:40:59,870 this all the time like we can contact 783 00:41:04,510 --> 00:41:01,010 these things and when you talk about 784 00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:04,520 their protocols chanting yes summon it 785 00:41:08,860 --> 00:41:06,740 almost sounds like magic like banishing 786 00:41:11,380 --> 00:41:08,870 negative entities bringing in the good 787 00:41:14,170 --> 00:41:11,390 ones this sounds like exactly the occult 788 00:41:17,530 --> 00:41:14,180 p.m. you said the right word there is a 789 00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:17,540 protocol on what she was telling me is 790 00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:22,070 exactly that because it's really easy to 791 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:24,860 feel that I'm the chosen one 792 00:41:31,810 --> 00:41:28,970 I had the Messianic archetype so I like 793 00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:31,820 the ambassador of this entity follow me 794 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:34,550 I will guide you to the stars 795 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:40,010 but sometimes you are being manipulated 796 00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:43,490 by this force of this phenomenon so 797 00:41:48,460 --> 00:41:45,830 that's why she was telling me that whoa 798 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:48,470 whoa slow down we need to be very very 799 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:52,370 careful when we contact the supernatural 800 00:41:58,540 --> 00:41:55,850 realm there are plenty of forces on that 801 00:42:01,180 --> 00:41:58,550 realm and you need to be protected and 802 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:01,190 the warranty had the rules had the 803 00:42:09,850 --> 00:42:06,890 protocol and somehow in western side we 804 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:09,860 forgot this protocol we used to had it 805 00:42:18,250 --> 00:42:13,690 but with the capitalism progresses 806 00:42:22,030 --> 00:42:18,260 religion plenty of stuff we tend to see 807 00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:22,040 the past as an old-fashioned way of 808 00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:26,510 living and I think we need to learn more 809 00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:32,380 about the past than to see the future as 810 00:42:41,350 --> 00:42:37,670 techno new-age way of living amen amen 811 00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:41,360 and I get really excited over that idea 812 00:42:47,380 --> 00:42:44,750 of entities and not taking them at face 813 00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:47,390 value because you know not to get to 814 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:49,430 taboo or off-topic but you look at the 815 00:42:53,260 --> 00:42:51,650 major religions and how many wars have 816 00:42:54,970 --> 00:42:53,270 been fought the spreading of 817 00:42:57,610 --> 00:42:54,980 Christianity and how many indigenous 818 00:42:59,020 --> 00:42:57,620 cultures were destroyed and a lot of 819 00:43:01,060 --> 00:42:59,030 these people never had a direct 820 00:43:03,820 --> 00:43:01,070 experience with this quote-unquote God 821 00:43:06,820 --> 00:43:03,830 but they have priests who are like hey 822 00:43:08,860 --> 00:43:06,830 follow me and God has great things in 823 00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:08,870 store for you but it's like if you look 824 00:43:14,140 --> 00:43:11,510 at the actions of some religions of the 825 00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:14,150 past and present they can be quite dark 826 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:16,250 and it's like do you really know what 827 00:43:20,730 --> 00:43:18,110 you're channeling your energy into I 828 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:20,740 mean you got to be quite careful 829 00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:23,690 exactly exactly that was their message 830 00:43:29,110 --> 00:43:26,630 not just for me she know that I was 831 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:29,120 recording it was a message to all of us 832 00:43:35,710 --> 00:43:31,610 and also who dark oak in the movie he 833 00:43:39,130 --> 00:43:35,720 said something like my words probably no 834 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:39,140 one will care from 100 people probably 835 00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:42,770 one or not even one I don't know but I 836 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:46,190 need to spread this message I love it 837 00:43:51,220 --> 00:43:48,290 however that is the power of technology 838 00:43:52,810 --> 00:43:51,230 to go to those off the radar places 839 00:43:55,570 --> 00:43:52,820 where there just aren't cameras and 840 00:43:58,210 --> 00:43:55,580 extract a message that can be propelled 841 00:44:00,580 --> 00:43:58,220 out I just love the mechanics there but 842 00:44:02,740 --> 00:44:00,590 so I wanted to switch gears a little bit 843 00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:02,750 before we get through this first hour to 844 00:44:07,930 --> 00:44:05,510 ask you about your other passion before 845 00:44:10,420 --> 00:44:07,940 this film and this project that seems to 846 00:44:12,850 --> 00:44:10,430 be your next film the secret of the 847 00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:12,860 inner world because I'm very interested 848 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:15,200 in inner earth mysteries lost 849 00:44:20,170 --> 00:44:18,050 civilizations underground tunnel systems 850 00:44:22,450 --> 00:44:20,180 and all that sort of stuff and it seems 851 00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:22,460 as if you're also interested in that 852 00:44:31,010 --> 00:44:26,390 stuff yes I mean this field for more 853 00:44:34,070 --> 00:44:31,020 than 10 years and I did my first movie 854 00:44:37,450 --> 00:44:34,080 man oh thanks because it was a journey 855 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:37,460 with a shaman across all the end this 856 00:44:42,830 --> 00:44:40,290 it's something like a spiritual film 857 00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:42,840 about life about death but I went there 858 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:45,510 because I wanted to investigate the Lake 859 00:44:51,830 --> 00:44:47,610 Titicaca is a lake that is shared 860 00:44:57,290 --> 00:44:51,840 between Peru and Bolivia and there is an 861 00:45:01,730 --> 00:44:57,300 ancient megalithic structure below the 862 00:45:05,450 --> 00:45:01,740 water underground because I was trying 863 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:05,460 to find traces footprints of this 864 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:08,490 civilization in the Andes 865 00:45:14,170 --> 00:45:11,730 they were called the Buddha cultures but 866 00:45:16,820 --> 00:45:14,180 it has plenty of names in different 867 00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:16,830 civilization and now I am preparing and 868 00:45:25,370 --> 00:45:20,160 you project a new book a new book sorry 869 00:45:28,220 --> 00:45:25,380 a new movie it's about a journey that we 870 00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:28,230 are going to live to the end days to 871 00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:31,680 Egypt to India in the India we are going 872 00:45:39,890 --> 00:45:35,280 to dive into the secret knowledge of the 873 00:45:43,310 --> 00:45:39,900 Vedic culture DeBellis in the Vedas it 874 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:43,320 says that in the beginning of humanity 875 00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:47,610 there was a war of two civilizations or 876 00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:51,510 two kinds of entities one was they 877 00:45:59,630 --> 00:45:54,000 assured us and the other one was the 878 00:46:02,540 --> 00:45:59,640 Devas you will find the same archetype 879 00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:02,550 in plenty of places you will find it 880 00:46:08,750 --> 00:46:05,220 also in North America with the Hoppy's 881 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:08,760 in the end days with the Quechua and the 882 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:12,330 whole point of this movie is to show 883 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:16,770 that in an ancient time probably twenty 884 00:46:25,850 --> 00:46:21,290 or thirty thousand years ago after the 885 00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:25,860 last ice age there was a civilization it 886 00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:29,040 was like a mother civilization in the 887 00:46:38,290 --> 00:46:33,960 Golden Age that gave birth to plenty of 888 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:38,300 cultures to the Sumerians Egyptians 889 00:46:45,019 --> 00:46:42,810 Maya's Aryans that probably came from 890 00:46:49,609 --> 00:46:45,029 the Arctic zone and 891 00:46:53,689 --> 00:46:49,619 moves to India and there they started to 892 00:46:58,789 --> 00:46:53,699 create the Bebek tradition so the whole 893 00:47:03,380 --> 00:46:58,799 idea is to expose this big idea that 894 00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:03,390 will shift the power free story and 895 00:47:10,909 --> 00:47:07,849 proto historian and the end of the movie 896 00:47:11,919 --> 00:47:10,919 after these trips to these different 897 00:47:15,949 --> 00:47:11,929 places 898 00:47:19,309 --> 00:47:15,959 the idea is to expose a hard core 899 00:47:22,699 --> 00:47:19,319 evidence of this civilization doing a 900 00:47:26,059 --> 00:47:22,709 real excavation in the heart of the 901 00:47:28,699 --> 00:47:26,069 Andes in Peru in cusco we are going to 902 00:47:31,579 --> 00:47:28,709 excavate there with an archaeological 903 00:47:34,689 --> 00:47:31,589 team that I in part of this team I'm the 904 00:47:39,380 --> 00:47:34,699 head of the feel Department of this 905 00:47:43,309 --> 00:47:39,390 association and the ideas to escapade in 906 00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:43,319 Cusco in order to find the tunnels that 907 00:47:52,099 --> 00:47:46,529 are mentioned in the Spanish chronicles 908 00:47:56,509 --> 00:47:52,109 in the Incas legends and to expose and 909 00:48:00,949 --> 00:47:56,519 rebuild that this civilization is real 910 00:48:06,739 --> 00:48:00,959 and it was settled in the Americas way 911 00:48:10,459 --> 00:48:06,749 before the DAR the Incas because you 912 00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:10,469 know that now we are in a very big 913 00:48:16,909 --> 00:48:13,169 struggle in the academic world in 914 00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:16,919 science because we don't know the origin 915 00:48:24,499 --> 00:48:20,339 of men in the Americas it is said that 916 00:48:27,699 --> 00:48:24,509 comes from Asia and started to come to 917 00:48:31,179 --> 00:48:27,709 South America thanks to North America 918 00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:31,189 but the evidence from their geological 919 00:48:38,989 --> 00:48:35,339 side its way much more different and one 920 00:48:41,569 --> 00:48:38,999 of the most important writers that are 921 00:48:44,989 --> 00:48:41,579 dealing with this battle is grant 922 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:44,999 Hancock hopefully we are going to have 923 00:48:49,850 --> 00:48:46,890 him on board 924 00:48:53,390 --> 00:48:49,860 because for my perspective he's the one 925 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:53,400 who is challenging the academic world 926 00:49:01,700 --> 00:48:57,210 saying that for example a comet came to 927 00:49:05,870 --> 00:49:01,710 the earth and with that begins the last 928 00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:05,880 ice age he's doing for me the right word 929 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:10,590 work and also the other researcher that 930 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:14,970 went to find these evidences the proof 931 00:49:22,580 --> 00:49:18,450 is on some parabola he was the one who 932 00:49:26,020 --> 00:49:22,590 escapade in the korikancha the ancient 933 00:49:31,410 --> 00:49:26,030 Inca temple of the Sun now is a church 934 00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:31,420 obviously but below this church 935 00:49:39,330 --> 00:49:35,230 there is this ancient entrance to the 936 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:39,340 tunnel and it is said that according to 937 00:49:47,010 --> 00:49:43,210 the chronicles all beyond this is a big 938 00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:47,020 network of tunnels and chambers and we 939 00:49:53,070 --> 00:49:51,250 need to find this as a proof and it is 940 00:49:57,060 --> 00:49:53,080 really important because it is related 941 00:50:00,540 --> 00:49:57,070 with our origin and no one should 942 00:50:04,170 --> 00:50:00,550 prohibit this knowledge even the church 943 00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:04,180 the governor man now it's the time to 944 00:50:11,130 --> 00:50:06,910 reveal this knowledge because now it is 945 00:50:14,430 --> 00:50:11,140 hidden is still hidden yes awesome 946 00:50:16,620 --> 00:50:14,440 and man this has been really great you 947 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:16,630 put out a very unique film that contains 948 00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:18,850 a lot of nuance and not one mention of 949 00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:22,390 the military so I'm into it thank you 950 00:50:26,570 --> 00:50:24,790 yes man it really seems like this 951 00:50:28,890 --> 00:50:26,580 phenomenon is way closer to something 952 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:28,900 spiritual or metaphysical than it is 953 00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:30,850 anything we need the Navy or Air Force 954 00:50:35,970 --> 00:50:33,430 for but that's just me yeah exactly 955 00:50:39,450 --> 00:50:35,980 exactly it means useless money to spend 956 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:39,460 millions on radars or antennas in order 957 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:42,610 to prove this but it's not my money but 958 00:50:48,990 --> 00:50:45,850 I prefer to spend on research on 959 00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:49,000 consciousness on making yet to 960 00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,310 understand the nature of our reality we 961 00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:53,440 don't know nothing about reality we say 962 00:50:57,660 --> 00:50:55,750 plenty of things about reality but at 963 00:51:00,570 --> 00:50:57,670 the end we don't know what is reality in 964 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:00,580 the case of war n'i tribes for them 965 00:51:06,450 --> 00:51:02,530 it's way much more important the dream 966 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:06,460 world rather than our reality when we 967 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:10,210 are waking up so yeah there are plenty 968 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:13,930 of works to do yes indeed and before we 969 00:51:17,820 --> 00:51:16,090 go here is there anything more to tell 970 00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:17,830 the listeners obviously the film is 971 00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:19,750 called witness to another world it's 972 00:51:23,610 --> 00:51:22,000 available on all digital platforms and 973 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:23,620 even all social media links other 974 00:51:29,580 --> 00:51:27,130 websites the main web satis witness of 975 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:29,590 another world calm and the good news is 976 00:51:37,530 --> 00:51:34,810 that on December 15 it will be available 977 00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:37,540 also on Amazon Prime for us 978 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:40,990 oh cool just super any subscriber or for 979 00:51:45,150 --> 00:51:44,050 a fee no it's for all this subscribe to 980 00:51:47,390 --> 00:51:45,160 the cast Amazon 981 00:51:48,569 --> 00:51:47,400 Brian will be able to see it for free 982 00:51:50,430 --> 00:51:48,579 awesome 983 00:51:52,529 --> 00:51:50,440 wow that's pretty great it's gonna 984 00:51:55,620 --> 00:51:52,539 coordinate really well with the release 985 00:51:58,769 --> 00:51:55,630 of this interview thank you yeah 986 00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:58,779 very cool and before I let you go how 987 00:52:03,089 --> 00:52:00,400 long are we gonna have to wait for 988 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:03,099 secret of the inner world I'm really 989 00:52:07,859 --> 00:52:04,450 psyched for that one is it just a 990 00:52:10,220 --> 00:52:07,869 funding thing yeah it's a fun it's not 991 00:52:13,579 --> 00:52:10,230 just a funding thing because now in 992 00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:13,589 development stage I'm still reading I'm 993 00:52:21,870 --> 00:52:16,839 putting all the pieces together to make 994 00:52:25,529 --> 00:52:21,880 the script but hopefully if I find a 995 00:52:29,130 --> 00:52:25,539 good producer I will be able to start 996 00:52:32,370 --> 00:52:29,140 next year I hope so it's a matter of 997 00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:32,380 money on time that's even it's the same 998 00:52:38,220 --> 00:52:35,440 story it is and then hopefully you'll be 999 00:52:40,620 --> 00:52:38,230 cracking that alchemy case next yes it 1000 00:52:42,809 --> 00:52:40,630 is I want to make an alchemy I don't 1001 00:52:45,299 --> 00:52:42,819 know if I want to make a fiction one or 1002 00:52:47,450 --> 00:52:45,309 a documentary but definitely it is 1003 00:52:51,450 --> 00:52:47,460 really necessary to speak about these 1004 00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:51,460 ancestral knowledge I love it I love it 1005 00:52:56,730 --> 00:52:53,920 well definitely stay in touch about your 1006 00:52:59,160 --> 00:52:56,740 path but for now man thanks again for 1007 00:53:01,319 --> 00:52:59,170 your time and for your film and take 1008 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:01,329 care out there thank you so much Greg I 1009 00:53:09,390 --> 00:53:03,250 really enjoyed it and thank you so much 1010 00:53:12,059 --> 00:53:09,400 you got it happy days and hallelujah 1011 00:53:14,690 --> 00:53:12,069 people that's what I'm talking about a 1012 00:53:17,730 --> 00:53:14,700 deep dive into one particularly 1013 00:53:20,220 --> 00:53:17,740 impactful entity encounter that checks 1014 00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:20,230 many of the boxes on Santa's higher side 1015 00:53:26,730 --> 00:53:23,920 lists physical contact seen the beans 1016 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:26,740 not just the craft lifelong dream 1017 00:53:33,150 --> 00:53:29,650 experiences as a result contact from 1018 00:53:36,299 --> 00:53:33,160 ancestors a shamanic lineage it's great 1019 00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:36,309 and as we said it's a much richer and 1020 00:53:42,509 --> 00:53:38,740 deeper lens to view this stuff through 1021 00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:42,519 than the militaristic one of to the 1022 00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:45,730 Stars Academy in fact I just saw a quote 1023 00:53:50,759 --> 00:53:48,160 from dr. Diana Poole silca along the 1024 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:50,769 lines of Tom DeLonge shouldn't make fun 1025 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:52,930 of people who have religious experiences 1026 00:53:57,150 --> 00:53:54,970 because it's all wrapped up in the same 1027 00:53:59,069 --> 00:53:57,160 phenomenon and the Silicon Valley 1028 00:54:01,289 --> 00:53:59,079 invisible college that she's 1029 00:54:04,589 --> 00:54:01,299 interacted with our believers in a 1030 00:54:06,469 --> 00:54:04,599 spiritual good and evil so maybe Tom is 1031 00:54:08,849 --> 00:54:06,479 missing a big piece of the puzzle I 1032 00:54:11,759 --> 00:54:08,859 thought he was an expert on this stuff 1033 00:54:14,279 --> 00:54:11,769 but hey for me I'd rather look at a 1034 00:54:17,789 --> 00:54:14,289 story like this rather than one that is 1035 00:54:21,029 --> 00:54:17,799 essentially a Navy pilot saw a Thane 1036 00:54:23,489 --> 00:54:21,039 once and to be honest when the 1037 00:54:26,039 --> 00:54:23,499 production team for this film first 1038 00:54:28,019 --> 00:54:26,049 reached out it seemed like we were gonna 1039 00:54:31,949 --> 00:54:28,029 get jock fillet himself on the show 1040 00:54:35,130 --> 00:54:31,959 along with Allen and it fell through but 1041 00:54:37,469 --> 00:54:35,140 I saw the film and I also of course 1042 00:54:39,209 --> 00:54:37,479 really liked Allen's other work his 1043 00:54:41,759 --> 00:54:39,219 other passions where he wants to further 1044 00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:41,769 explore the Inner Earth and I thought 1045 00:54:46,890 --> 00:54:44,609 let's do it anyway it's a good story 1046 00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:46,900 Allen can share some insights from 1047 00:54:52,229 --> 00:54:49,599 Jacque and we can talk about that inner 1048 00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,239 thing and I'm happy with it 1049 00:54:57,329 --> 00:54:54,640 I think Allen made for a great guest and 1050 00:55:00,690 --> 00:54:57,339 it's also Christmas week why shouldn't 1051 00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:00,700 we celebrate one story and the relief 1052 00:55:06,089 --> 00:55:03,190 and closure that he got during the 1053 00:55:08,609 --> 00:55:06,099 process of this documentary I think it 1054 00:55:11,849 --> 00:55:08,619 lines up pretty nicely with a holiday 1055 00:55:15,689 --> 00:55:11,859 such as this it's a positive thing and 1056 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:15,699 it's largely about family and if you're 1057 00:55:20,430 --> 00:55:17,650 interested in hearing or seeing the 1058 00:55:23,279 --> 00:55:20,440 shaman's firsthand which is a real 1059 00:55:25,229 --> 00:55:23,289 rarity or if you're interested in 1060 00:55:27,329 --> 00:55:25,239 getting a better gauge on one to see how 1061 00:55:30,449 --> 00:55:27,339 you feel about this story I would 1062 00:55:32,849 --> 00:55:30,459 definitely recommend the film I like 1063 00:55:35,069 --> 00:55:32,859 lending support and the old THC 1064 00:55:38,579 --> 00:55:35,079 endorsement to projects that support 1065 00:55:41,099 --> 00:55:38,589 this idea that the whole phenomenon is 1066 00:55:43,620 --> 00:55:41,109 bigger than aliens in a flying saucer 1067 00:55:47,009 --> 00:55:43,630 and I hope you understand why I'm sure 1068 00:55:49,529 --> 00:55:47,019 you do but that said big thanks to Allen 1069 00:55:50,009 --> 00:55:49,539 again and to his people for sending this 1070 00:55:52,109 --> 00:55:50,019 to us 1071 00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,119 again the film is called witness of 1072 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:54,160 another world I think I might have said 1073 00:55:59,640 --> 00:55:56,170 to another world at one point but it is 1074 00:56:03,269 --> 00:55:59,650 of and as Alan said if you have Amazon 1075 00:56:04,829 --> 00:56:03,279 Prime you can watch it for free seems 1076 00:56:07,279 --> 00:56:04,839 like you got to go to Amazon to hear 1077 00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:07,289 from the shamans in more ways than one 1078 00:56:12,660 --> 00:56:11,049 and I'm sure that just the viewer 1079 00:56:15,569 --> 00:56:12,670 numbers are going to be a big deal 1080 00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:15,579 for Alan's career for his next project 1081 00:56:20,579 --> 00:56:18,880 for how everything's received and if we 1082 00:56:22,529 --> 00:56:20,589 show this production team that the 1083 00:56:24,180 --> 00:56:22,539 higher side chats is a better vehicle 1084 00:56:26,759 --> 00:56:24,190 than some of the other shows they put 1085 00:56:30,839 --> 00:56:26,769 Alan and jock on will get better 1086 00:56:33,059 --> 00:56:30,849 opportunities - so help me help you got 1087 00:56:35,779 --> 00:56:33,069 to play the game to win and you can call 1088 00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:35,789 me the Palpatine a podcast and I guess 1089 00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:39,190 no I'm absolutely kidding there but I 1090 00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:41,710 guess I should also apologize for 1091 00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:44,319 pulling the joint session at the last 1092 00:56:48,930 --> 00:56:46,750 second I was pretty sick this week and 1093 00:56:50,609 --> 00:56:48,940 I'd actually fallen asleep before I 1094 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:50,619 could post that I wasn't gonna make it 1095 00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:52,930 and then I woke up after it should have 1096 00:56:58,620 --> 00:56:55,440 started so apologies if you were waiting 1097 00:57:03,029 --> 00:56:58,630 we're gonna do one though the day after 1098 00:57:05,220 --> 00:57:03,039 Christmas December 26th 7 p.m. Pacific 1099 00:57:08,849 --> 00:57:05,230 I'll get that link up on the site when I 1100 00:57:11,309 --> 00:57:08,859 can but come over if you want to get 1101 00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:11,319 involved with that obviously something 1102 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:13,119 we talked about in the + show actually 1103 00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:15,970 came up on the last joint session also 1104 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:18,910 for plus people I did get the bonus 1105 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:21,490 content page reworked all the songs are 1106 00:57:27,569 --> 00:57:23,890 there bonus episodes that never came out 1107 00:57:30,210 --> 00:57:27,579 except for two plus people the Q&A shows 1108 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:30,220 which we should do another one of but 1109 00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:32,410 also the joint sessions all of them are 1110 00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:35,049 back up if you're interested in combing 1111 00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:38,710 through them I know 75% of people just 1112 00:57:42,660 --> 00:57:40,960 want good interviews they really only 1113 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:42,670 pay attention to the core stuff I do 1114 00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:44,890 which makes sense because it's the best 1115 00:57:50,059 --> 00:57:47,140 thing I do but I still try to throw in 1116 00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:50,069 little extras just to show appreciation 1117 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:53,440 just sweeten the deal try on other hats 1118 00:57:56,700 --> 00:57:54,490 you get it 1119 00:57:59,039 --> 00:57:56,710 but if you're a plus person check that 1120 00:58:00,960 --> 00:57:59,049 bonus content page out I'm sure you'll 1121 00:58:02,670 --> 00:58:00,970 find something there that you might have 1122 00:58:04,650 --> 00:58:02,680 missed or maybe wasn't on the old one 1123 00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:04,660 now that everything is better organized 1124 00:58:10,289 --> 00:58:07,750 and speaking of the core show got 1125 00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:10,299 another YouTube strike this time for 1126 00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:12,609 David Ickes last appearance about the 1127 00:58:17,789 --> 00:58:14,799 trigger and the satanic death cult that 1128 00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:17,799 caused 9/11 it's a show that's been up 1129 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:20,079 there for two months but they looked it 1130 00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:22,210 over and they think that it is hate 1131 00:58:26,250 --> 00:58:24,880 speech so I'm not surprised we have been 1132 00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:26,260 talking about this for a 1133 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:28,270 long time if you listen to the higher 1134 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:30,730 side chats on YouTube I wish you would 1135 00:58:36,060 --> 00:58:33,520 stop and just get a podcast app like a 1136 00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:36,070 normal person and plug us right on in 1137 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:39,310 there because that way the corporate 1138 00:58:46,020 --> 00:58:43,450 behemoths at Google and YouTube cannot 1139 00:58:48,660 --> 00:58:46,030 come between us as they're trying to do 1140 00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:48,670 in the fine print of this particular 1141 00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,040 strike they told me that I should be 1142 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:53,440 able to continue posting but if I get 1143 00:58:57,660 --> 00:58:55,570 another one that posting privilege will 1144 00:59:00,330 --> 00:58:57,670 be revoked and I'll be put back in 1145 00:59:02,370 --> 00:59:00,340 YouTube's timeout again don't really 1146 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:02,380 care about YouTube I think it's kind of 1147 00:59:08,780 --> 00:59:04,810 messed up how we give them so much power 1148 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:08,790 and so many content creators are 1149 00:59:13,650 --> 00:59:11,650 basically living or dying by what 1150 00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:13,660 YouTube decides to do this week and 1151 00:59:19,109 --> 00:59:17,200 that's stupid so as a person making a 1152 00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:19,119 show I'm gonna continue to put it there 1153 00:59:25,650 --> 00:59:21,609 until I can't anymore but I need you to 1154 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:25,660 be aware of how limited th-these life 1155 00:59:30,510 --> 00:59:28,930 might be on YouTube and I hope that you 1156 00:59:32,460 --> 00:59:30,520 know I've been creating this content for 1157 00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:32,470 you for a long time and I just hope that 1158 00:59:38,430 --> 00:59:35,230 maybe you're loyal to that even though 1159 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:38,440 we don't really know each other and just 1160 00:59:41,580 --> 00:59:40,330 because YouTube makes it slightly more 1161 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:41,590 difficult for you to listen that doesn't 1162 00:59:46,430 --> 00:59:44,410 break us apart I mean it's Christmas 1163 00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:46,440 guys come on 1164 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:49,119 also for Plus people I did send out an 1165 00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:51,010 email with a little video and a few 1166 00:59:56,370 --> 00:59:53,800 steps to move old accounts into the new 1167 00:59:59,250 --> 00:59:56,380 subscription system from this year and a 1168 01:00:01,320 --> 00:59:59,260 lot of you did thank you so much and a 1169 01:00:03,060 --> 01:00:01,330 lot of people said well I never have a 1170 01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:03,070 problem with my account so I guess I 1171 01:00:07,950 --> 01:00:05,920 don't have to do this well you haven't 1172 01:00:10,770 --> 01:00:07,960 had a problem because I've been making a 1173 01:00:13,859 --> 01:00:10,780 manual fix for you every month since 1174 01:00:16,140 --> 01:00:13,869 August and you just haven't noticed and 1175 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:16,150 I can't keep up with it anymore so 1176 01:00:22,020 --> 01:00:19,090 please complete those steps before you 1177 01:00:23,970 --> 01:00:22,030 have an issue or it's gonna take me a 1178 01:00:26,070 --> 01:00:23,980 while to fix because I got family stuff 1179 01:00:27,210 --> 01:00:26,080 going on for the holidays my inbox is 1180 01:00:30,270 --> 01:00:27,220 pretty full already 1181 01:00:32,730 --> 01:00:30,280 so if you got the email please do the 1182 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:32,740 thing I'm one guy trying to communicate 1183 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:36,850 with many many people at once and as for 1184 01:00:40,110 --> 01:00:38,650 the plus content in today's show with 1185 01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:40,120 Alan we talked about 1186 01:00:44,910 --> 01:00:42,670 hidden treasure in Peru we talked about 1187 01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:44,920 the costs of a true underground 1188 01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:47,080 excavation project I was just saying on 1189 01:00:51,150 --> 01:00:48,910 a previous show that some of these 1190 01:00:53,820 --> 01:00:51,160 things eventually I'm like why isn't tht 1191 01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:53,830 just saying okay we're gonna just do 1192 01:01:00,450 --> 01:00:58,240 this but it came up again and we talked 1193 01:01:04,650 --> 01:01:00,460 about an slump rear on blah 1194 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:04,660 the tayo scavs in Ecuador Juan's 1195 01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:07,450 recurring and prophetic dreams deeper 1196 01:01:12,330 --> 01:01:09,430 insights from Jacques boule about the 1197 01:01:15,050 --> 01:01:12,340 contact experience more details about 1198 01:01:17,610 --> 01:01:15,060 contact experiences and Juan's case 1199 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:17,620 differences in interpretation here in 1200 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:20,890 the US versus South America my favorite 1201 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:23,890 detail from the plus show apparently 1202 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:27,250 real UFO artifacts just on display in a 1203 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:31,330 obscure Argentinian UFO Museum and the 1204 01:01:35,940 --> 01:01:33,610 icing on the cake we talked about these 1205 01:01:37,950 --> 01:01:35,950 six months of indigenous rituals that 1206 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:37,960 Alan participated in during the making 1207 01:01:44,670 --> 01:01:41,770 of his first film human oh so another 1208 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:44,680 plus podcast packed with conspiratorial 1209 01:01:50,910 --> 01:01:47,410 and paranormal goodness and I hope you 1210 01:01:52,380 --> 01:01:50,920 come along for the ride sign up for plus 1211 01:01:56,820 --> 01:01:52,390 I could use you 1212 01:01:58,770 --> 01:01:56,830 and you could use me I guess maybe but 1213 01:02:00,990 --> 01:01:58,780 big thanks to Alan great stuff I hope 1214 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:01,000 you're intrigued but that is it for now 1215 01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:03,250 joint session in just a couple of days 1216 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:05,440 two more shows coming out before the end 1217 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:08,170 of the year enjoy Christmas try to find 1218 01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:09,730 common ground with your friends and 1219 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:12,510 family in a time of chaos and conflict 1220 01:02:17,130 --> 01:02:15,250 try to nurture your real-world human 1221 01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:17,140 interactions in an era of digital 1222 01:02:22,830 --> 01:02:19,680 middlemen for pretty much everything and 1223 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:22,840 just have a good time take a break from 1224 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:24,610 your troubles take a break from the old 1225 01:02:29,580 --> 01:02:26,890 nine-to-five and spread a little love 1226 01:02:31,110 --> 01:02:29,590 and with that I'm getting out of here 1227 01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:31,120 you're all the best 1228 01:02:35,820 --> 01:02:33,520 a couple more shows coming at you and 1229 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:35,830 then it's off to 20/20 I've done my part 1230 01:02:40,770 --> 01:02:39,010 your move a theory entities Amazonian 1231 01:02:46,410 --> 01:02:40,780 shamans and craft captains of the 1232 01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:51,569 woke up this morning with light in my 1233 01:03:00,339 --> 01:02:56,910 eyes and then realized it was done 1234 01:03:12,670 --> 01:03:03,400 it was a lie 1235 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,340 you 1236 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:20,080 must be those strangers that come every 1237 01:03:32,140 --> 01:03:25,610 night who's a saucer-shaped alight but 1238 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:32,150 people obtain the blue-green footprint 1239 01:03:46,190 --> 01:03:40,330 and they get home 1240 01:03:53,849 --> 01:03:52,380 mr. spaceman won't you please take me 1241 01:04:01,650 --> 01:03:53,859 along 1242 01:04:07,319 --> 01:04:01,660 I won't do anything wrong hey mr. 1243 01:04:12,670 --> 01:04:07,329 spaceman won't you please take me along 1244 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,640 moved up this morning 1245 01:04:25,130 --> 01:04:21,020 quite weird I had 1246 01:04:30,770 --> 01:04:25,140 it's in my beer my tooth pain 1247 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:33,290 written my name 1248 01:04:44,290 --> 01:04:36,730 [Music] 1249 01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:47,850 mr. space 1250 01:04:58,420 --> 01:04:50,570 won't you please take me 1251 01:05:06,470 --> 01:05:02,390 mr. spaceman 1252 01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:06,480 won't you please take me along 1253 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,070 Hey 1254 01:05:24,580 --> 01:05:16,029 mr. spaceman 1255 01:05:24,590 --> 01:05:30,560 [Music] 1256 01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:35,220 why don't you please take me along the 1257 01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:50,260 take me along the high